Tips for chest/hip rotation : r/golf - Reddit If you are hitting it straight and getting a divot past the ball, keep going like you are. Thanks! Michael Breed teaches you a drill for a better body turn in your golf swing. The book is packed with plenty of easy-to-read, simple tips aimed at older golfersthough that doesnt mean younger players cant learn from it! (i.e. So if you imagine a point in the centre of your chest as the club is taken away and the shoulders begin to rotate. When shots get ugly, I stand way far from the ballfeel like Moe Norman and probably look as silly. Good luck. [/quote] If anyone has a short armed ( longer arms change the dynamics of the swing) big chested golfer they can show id be gratefully. Assume your address position without a club or ball. I come from a softball background and always hit opposite field (late swing). As you reach the top of your backswing the chest should be facing pretty much straight away from your target. All shafts are S2S Stepless Steel Wishon, At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. It isnt as easy as that, of course. Thanks for the tip for arm on top .it fixed me overnight I am even drawing the ball again or dead straight.. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. Thanks for the information on the setup. My right shoulder sets up below the left, but my right hip is tends to get higher than the left resulting in either a vertical or reversed spine tilt. Herman. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Given that you are placing the ball in the middle of your stance, wouldnt your stance be wider depending on what club you are using? 1. Thanks Jean. When things are going really bad, I sometimes set up with my left hand in the two-knuckle position with the face open to get my swing back on plane. It appears to me youve probably grown pretty accustomed to a strong-grip, closed face style of play with a flat swing plane. Ball - pro v1x Former European Tour and Ryder Cup player turned coach Peter Dawson has plenty of swing tips for senior golfers, including this gem, In his coaching companion, Now for the Back Nine, former European Tour and Ryder Cup player Peter Dawson has pieced together a series of easy-to-read, digestible coaching tips aimed at golfers of an advancing age. It was more like a shitty music festival than a golf tournament. Dare I say a more stack-n-tilt backswing has help me tremendously, but I won't get into those specific "labels" here. Dear Herman, the more I follow and implement your advice, the better I strike the ball! Basically we create the setup while standing a few inches too far away from the ball, then slide the clubhead up behind the ball as the feet take a small step forward. I have a large chest and used to keep my left arm down my left side with the right coming over my chest. [/quote] I'm not learned enough to explain the three-barrel part but was a lurking member years ago there, and it was certainly an information-packed place. Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. Are 3 woods obsolete for double digit golfers??? 2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30), Moi matched my iron set, now living on the heel, Diamana PD 50TX; Diamana TB 80TX; Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 52/10; Best Grip Microperf Midsize Augusta grips. You're not gonna be bombing 300yd drives, but it will build you a solid foundation that can grow as your belly shrinks. Hey Herman, But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. Herman, I love this game and am just so frustrated that I cant get a consistent swing. Basically the right shoulder drops to the right and left hip moves to the left. that's pretty big. While working on getting my left arm on top of my pec, I was neglecting what I was doing to grip the club with my right hand. Practice 1-handed forearm rotations with left hand holding the club, then immediately step up and play a shot it might actually hook. You cannot paste images directly. I looked at this video and the gem of it is the left arm (tricep) on the left pectoral detail. I like Smocks swing too. I am not sure what you are asking, but I think you are saying you don't like your backswing. But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. He Played at 225(5'11"), though he would spend most of his LD career at 240-245. So much better to understand what you are doing instead of just being told and not knowing why you do what you do or why things will go wrong. Today, I wish I lived in NC! Herman. Place yourself in a balanced, athletic position, with the ball in the centre of the club face. open feet, closed shoulders) You should see great results. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] Funny thing was I used to have John Daly swing as a kid because I was skinny as a rail and now my swing looks like someone elses 1/2 or 3/4 swing. Ill try on the course your recomendation to set the feet slightly wider the the hips. 5 mistakes all golfers make on par 3 holes, Marcus Westerberg Chipping Tips: Stop helping the ball in the air, PGA Tour star reveals what it's like to play with a red-hot Jon Rahm, Equipment brand publicly cuts ties with LIV Golf stars, 'The DP World Tour feeds the PGA Tour it's always been like that', Keith Pelley: 'I have no influence on the Ryder Cup', Keep your feet together to improve your chipping. The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. I wish I could rotate down with my shoulders more level, instead of tilting right so hard. FEMALE golfer (LEFT-HANDED) . Since I have a normal Height(178cm), below average Arms (my wrists to floor is 88cm , 3cm more than a normal guy with 178) and a thick chest, what do you think the length and lie of the irons should be changed relative to the standard ones? Right hand shows 2.5-3 knuckles. I've lifted weights on and off my entire life, and have a barrel chest with large arms (luckily, I have only a 32" waist, so I'm not fat). Boy, that really seems to free me up, am I headed for a wreck? In this video Mark Wood PGA Advanced Professional shows you a great. A neutral grip makes it all too easy to let arm sit on the side of the chest. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. In this first of his swing tips for senior golfers taken from the book, Peter explains why its important to simplify the golf swing. elbow pointed at body/tricep on chest dates all the way back to Ben Hogan in the 50s. Been lucky to have played most of this winter. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Can you give me some advice? Thanks for commenting Wayne. I was glad to see him win. The preshot routine will help consistently apply the setup to shots with both irons and woods while aiming correctly at targets on the range or the golf course. [quote name='LaterOn61' timestamp='1385085653' post='8187280'] As you land inhale (breath in) and absorb the weight into your heels before you jump again. Michael, Im not sure changing anything here would make you hit it further. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] Why do you turn your shoulders 90*? First, we need a great grip. I've tried that upright swing before, and it just doesn't feel comfortable. Moving it back a little for these short irons may help you if thats the case. Im a width guy (strong guy with a developed chest and strong lats and deltoid although i dont go to the gym. Very strong grip. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. Make sure: (1) Your left leg gently bumps the wall as you start down, and (2) the back of your left hand faces the wall as it comes down in front of. Perhaps because Im left-handed, but swing right-handed, I set the club behind the ball with the left hand only and then place my right hand on the club. Jim, you are technically correct, but since I know you, I will also with humor say, stop over-analyzing. , For a broader audience who wont study this in too much detail, the idea is to start the club centered to get the most symmetrical possible start with body and club alignments and best possible takeaway. [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 hybrid, Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Pro[/b][/color][/size] Thanks for commenting. Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. Excess knee flex will ruin your motion. That is what I do anyway, for what ever it is worth. I have just started learning from your video 3 days ago and doing really well with the irons using your grip (was using interlocking) immediately went from slicing the ball to a straight ball flight with added distance 20yards. Its about finding what works for your body type. Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58. Barrel-Chested Patterns? | Brian Manzella Golf I've got a large chest and big arms, right now 6'1" about 230lbs but I played football at 275lbs. 5-PW: Callaway X Forged '13 w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 My basic iron setup tries to align the shaft with the belt buckle picturing the shaft like a T-square with the leading edge of face perfectly square. He was solid as a rock-. My ball position is the same as everyone else, off of right ear, left pec-ish type. I turn my right hip just a little to the inside. How to modify the swing, without lag it's just a shove. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. I have long arms, so my swing looks a little different than a guy with short arms and a larger chest. Now my new problem. We test length with impact sensitive tape to determine where you hit the face. Look no further than the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy for a perfect example. Literally your hips and legs will not be symmetrically centered on the ball. Ive tried to visualize an imaginary obstacle in front of me as I setup to the ball to see if I can get the same results, but it has not been particularly effective. G425 Max 9*o w/ RIP Beta Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. This has been a struggle. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! Great image for slicers and shorter distance golfers. When I watch the professionals most dont seem to have such a position, in fact they look a little slouched and bent over in the upper thoracic/neck area (Phil, Ernie Els). Hopefully when I post an update after my trip to Jacksonville in Feb I will be down about 30 lbs. How to Keep Your Arms In Front of Your Chest on a Golf Backswing Display as a link instead, hit is with so much authority I had some issues and knew something didnt feel right in set up. Maybe in the future. By Swing suggestions for my unusual body type . Yrrdead - those are some great stretches. Barrel-Chested. My lower back is on it's last legs. Grips - Crossline cord Anyway, short, stocky, old guy here. Better Golf Shots - Swinging In A Barrel - YouTube I'm 5'6' and about 175 pounds. [/quote] You can post now and register later. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. Any advice would be wonderful. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. First I must say you are one hell of an instructor. What bothers me most now is the driver, could you talk more about how to set up and hit a driver/fairway wood. Much more like my old two-knuckle stance. (Im left handed). Golfers must rotate the arms - Dr. Yessis SportLab Just grabbing a club in my living room and getting my left arm out in front of my chest made a huge difference. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. I like Smocks swing too. Now I am 45lbs over weight, but plan to start working out after Thanksgiving lol. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. I especially some of the work with the roller. By I have a broad chest as well and lack proper external right shoulder rotation - you can either go 'up' toward the anterior like some have described, or you can stay in depth (and some width) with low hands and reverse loop a fade out of it. Are you referring to being heavy thick chested or having a barrel chest? The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. Coming over the top on the downswing and pulling or slicing the golf ball is almost guaranteed. Elbows to chest In the clip, which you can watch in full below, Hogan suggests starting by making small swings, with your. Any swing suggestions? Thanks. Hi Herman, Bow forward more at the hips if necessary. Herman. Ive noticed on the range that many people set up with the handle of the golf club positioned near their left thigh, or pointed toward the target, creating the appearance of the club leaning forward at address. It has been historically taught that way, but there is no biomechanical reason or advantage to changing the stance widths. I am a short, stocky guy, who - because of a larger chest - can't get his left arm anywhere close to tight/flat against my chest. I think you are the thinking mans golf coach. Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. As for the swing, I really just focus on keeping my arms straight to keep the club in front of me, make sure I tilt left going back so my head doesn't move too far to my right, and then coming down I try to get my body rotating fast. There are definitely adjustments and considerations that need to be made with this type of build. Before any more rambling I guess my main question is: See What Members Are Saying! Oh great, now Im even more confused. Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. If you have the time, I would appreciate your thoughts on these two setup positions with the left arm and what each one promotes. Ironically, if I need to hit a high shot (say over a tree), I seem to make some of my best swings (I imagine it has to do with my setup and the need to get the ball up rather quickly). I have a question regarding the position of the handle of the golf club. Display as a link instead, document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Im telling everyone i know who plays to watch them! Usually I work out all winter and barely touch the weights during the golf season, so things get slightly better as the summer goes on (I can probably swing back to about the 10:00 position). I tend to setup comfortably in an open stance with all clubs. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385087109' post='8187438'] What makes it easy on the back? Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. Should I feel relaxed in my wrists with no wrist cock at set up or is it alright to have a little bit. I have done a fair amount of bench pressing so development of this muscle and the slight lack of flexibility make it very important for me to do. To initiate your. Maybe we can get her to chime in? Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. Herman. Swing component: WAITfor the feel of centrifugal force coming in as your body stops his rotation and your left arm and club are swung into orbit. The clubhead has so far to travel (up to 16 feet from top of arc to impact) it is too easy for hips to outrun the clubhead and leave it open like a baseball batter late on a pitch. My fixes) I have a doubt regarding my stance. Please note that l am hitting the ball straight with perhaps the merest hint of a draw. This will raise your left hip and drop your right hip and knee. I have been struggling greatly with my game over the last few years. (Lefty) what are the positions and or movements that my wrists/forearms should make to have a square club face at impact? Epic Fail. Great architecture, it took over 175 years to build, and its now over 800 years old. r/golf - So I'm a big barrel chested guy, and almost every video I If you are strong but lack mobility, especially in thoracic spine, you should be a 3 barrel hitter. Generally barrel-chested guys need to get the arms on top of the chest and then bend over more than average to clear the chest on the swing. Very interesting; my thoracic is trashed and not going to get better, and I've been considering this change myself. First, we need a great grip. Again Thanks a lot. So key for me is shoulder first then arms while keeping width which again is hard for me. I just never made the connection. I still have a lot of work to go but I feel more interested in golf now than ever. I assume you mean how high the hands should be at address. Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen A good fit should leave the clubhead resting on the ground with the toe of the club just slightly up in the air. I do have 1 question on the address you mention the golf shaft points at the belt buckle however there is a lot of info out there saying the shaft should point to left hip at address and if you look at top tour players like Rory McIlroy they do tend to have this lean of the shaft. Thanks for the compliments fellas. It got to the point that I couldnt even find a comfortable or reliable position at address. Boomer was a legend in the teaching ranks in the first half of the last century, and his book, "On Learning Golf," published in 1946, can still be purchased. Most of them DO NEED to learn to let their arms swing from their shoulder sockets more. I've done either and vary on it. Holy crap. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] Putter: TaylorMade TP Collection Juno (33). Thick Chest - Instruction & Academy - GolfWRX I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. when i lift my tricep on top of my pec, i feel a lot of tension in my left arm, mainly the upper part of my arm and left shoulder, does this sound like a correct feeling ? Well last week i decided to try it since using your move of bringing the club down in slot before clearing and keeping trunk turned away at same time. Herman. I used to do this all the time but some how you just forget some of these important set up features. ABC123 Golf Academy Instructor, Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen Have your feet roughly shoulder-width apart keeping good alignment (don't bend knees in or out) Sit back like sitting on a chair whilst keeping your chest higher than the hips and exhale (breath out) as you jump up. Once again, thank you. I wish you had been around when I was a kid. I've lifted weights on and off my entire life, and have a barrel chest with large arms (luckily, I have only a 32" waist, so I'm not fat). Thanks a mill. Hands should be about a fist-width to a fist-and-a-half away from legs. We teach this on day one to every beginner we encounter, and they dont think this game is so hard to learn. You will be extending the hands, arms, club in a manner that appears to be going straight back from the ball while the body is making a coordinated pivot all parts moving together. Again thanks for your rapid response. Thanks for watching. With this build there is also a definite tendency to have a flat shoulder turn in the backswing in an an effort to get your arms up and back. Swing faster and stop coming over the top - TrackMan Golf Wishon 775HS 22*, 25* Keep up the good work and I will continue to keep in touch. Only when I move ball out the 2inches or so. Herman. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. 2023 HomeTown Lenders Championship (Korn Ferry Tour) - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 RBC Heritage - Discussion and links to Photos, 2023 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and links to photos, 2023 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Discussion and links to photos. It's simple and very informative. Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* Your body will feel stuck and your hands will whip over quickly, My swing continues to improve with using your videos to guide me. Stay Connected For Power - Golf Tips Magazine Thanks for stopping by to comment on the blog. 4) Hip speed will ruin your driver swing until youve had time to master your hands. Check the midpoint position of your backswing in front of a mirror from the down-the-line view. Thanks for the compliments and I hope you see continued improvement in your game. [/quote] A well-placed golf stance puts your body in a athletic and balanced manner that allows you to turn and keep your balance throughout the golf swing. I had never heard of this setup before and found it promoted a steeper plan for me which is good as I tend to get a little laid off and stuck. I took up golf when I hit the age of 50, I used my friends 7 iron and hacked my way around a local course and became addicted, I had a couple of lessons along the way from a pro and started to read / watch videos on the net. One-Piece is a term used to describe moving the hands, arms and club as a single unit with no hinge in the early phases of backswing. The modern swing teaches keeping both feet on the ground which twists the spine. But at the end of the day you want to get rid of the interference your chest creates regarding the armswing. Herman, Great Job on the videos ,I live in Greensboro and am lefty,Iwill be calling for a lesson soon . Your arm simply goes back and through and nine times out of ten goes straight where you intended. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. There's space between your chest and chin that I'm betting your left arm will fit in just fine -- but you have to add some "up" to your swing. I'm with ya and learned a lot from Dan while I was in Jacksonville a few months back. My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. If I use a neutral gripmy club face arrives open. . Clear editor. I usually see a lot of slouching in my clientele with lots of forward shoulder rounding especially in adult men beyond 30 years of age. So try to base your decision on your need for mobility, not so much on how wide your shoulders are. Gerry James, another long drive guy, was Mr. California. A few things could be going on, so youll need to test one at a time in the following order. Wishon 54, 59 Micro-Groove HM Herman. Unfortunately, just because the new changes are supposedly a better way to swing, it doesnt mean they will be easy to do or that they will work better initially. Should l try to widen my back swing or do you feel l should play with what l have got? [*][size=4][b][color=#0000ff]Ping G410 LST, Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Pro [/color][/b][/size] The 3 biggest mistakes you make with your driver. Kyle Morris Ken, Thank you, Ken. Could this be that I am not rotating my wrist fast enough or should I have a stronger grip or maybe its my hip rotation.. Longer irons I do not have this problem. This causes the club to approach the ball on a significantly in-to-out path with a hold-on style of release. Thanks, As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. In other words train your hands for impact first, and try to get to duck-hooking as soon as possible. [media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaCMiAslT_k[/media] Pete, you are right on track. Herman. Squat Jump. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. : ENTER NOW! So my feet and shoulders do not match. What's a "3 barrel hitter?" Let the club fall half way down from bending at the hips, then let the wrists uncock enough to finish lowering the club to the ground. [*][size=4][b][color=#daa520]Callaway MD5 45,49,54,58/[/color] Your observations as a weight lifter are spot on. I also pivot better if I flare both feet out quite a bit, especially the front foot. A couple of more ho ho's I should be 280 plus. 2023 HomeTown Lenders Championship (Korn Ferry Tour) - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 RBC Heritage - Discussion and links to Photos, 2023 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and links to photos, 2023 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Discussion and links to photos. No, you just pick the ball up and throw it in one natural movement and without a thought. Herman. I am barrel chested, could this be the cause?
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